After Jonny Gomes' three-run homer in the seventh inning of Monday's 6-3 Reds victory, Brewers reliever Todd Coffey plunked Drew Stubbs with his first pitch.
Home playte umpire Brian Gorman issued a warning to both teams, but there was no further escalation.
Should the Reds have retaliated? Or is it something they stick in the back of their minds and remember.
Gomes, no stranger to an on-field brouhaha, said the Reds weren't worry about retaliating, they were worried about winning.
Instead of getting revenge, Reds reliever Nick Masset struck out the first batter he faced, Ryan Bruan, allowed a single to Prince Fielder and got Casey McGehee to ground into an inning-ending double play.
"We don't have any time for that to escalate right now, we're focused on winning games right now," Gomes said. "I don't know if it was intentional, I didn't throw it, you'd have to ask him. We're focused on winning ball games and not going to waste energy on things like that."
Home playte umpire Brian Gorman issued a warning to both teams, but there was no further escalation.
Should the Reds have retaliated? Or is it something they stick in the back of their minds and remember.
Gomes, no stranger to an on-field brouhaha, said the Reds weren't worry about retaliating, they were worried about winning.
Instead of getting revenge, Reds reliever Nick Masset struck out the first batter he faced, Ryan Bruan, allowed a single to Prince Fielder and got Casey McGehee to ground into an inning-ending double play.
"We don't have any time for that to escalate right now, we're focused on winning games right now," Gomes said. "I don't know if it was intentional, I didn't throw it, you'd have to ask him. We're focused on winning ball games and not going to waste energy on things like that."
when was the last time the reds got into any type of altercation? its been years
oh, and after stubbs was hit, with a five run lead, he was pressing to run. i think that was an interesting way to handle it
kudos to the Reds who handled it properly and professionally by taking care of business first...file it away for future reference and if it happens again, we should expect a reaction. Nice to put a hurting on Coffey who has checked us 2-3 times in the past..nice to the Reds on a roll, is this the year to finally contend for the div or the wildcard, or at minimum have a winning record ?
Despite this happening after the Gomes homer, the Reds were able to retaliate in the best way possible, in the standings. Winning the game is more important than getting even. I promise you though, if Coffey happens to be at the plate against the Reds in a future game, that's out of hand, he will eat a fastball. I love watching this team right now, a mix of youth and vets that seem to work well together. Gomes has been playing out of his head too which is awesome! They need to stay healthy, continue to take this one game at a time, and they have a good chance to win the division.
One of the worst things you can do as a reliever is put the first guy on. Especially when you're facing the 3-4-5 in the order. So the timing wasn't right to react. I agree that Stubbs stealing 2nd (and third?) up by 5 runs would have been the appropriate "retaliation".
Nice to see the old version of Todd Coffey last night. Comes in and gives up four straight hits. That's the Coffey we knew as a Red. Used to infuriate me. Then he went to Milwaukee and seemingly figured it out, which was even worse.
I read somewhere that Jonny was showing Coffey up a little?
I was at the game with my daughter, and everyone in our section was whooping and high-fiving as soon as Gomes' homer went out, so we missed Gomes' (apparent) hot-dogging and homerun trot.
I explained to The Girl that a deliberate beaning sometimes follows a homer, but add in the hot-dogging and it makes much more sense.
I agree that the timing was not right to react. Like KW said, the 3-4-5 guys were coming up, plus whoever the 'plunker' was would have been ejected - my thinking here is that Dusty doesn't send Masset or Rhodes out to hit somebody, but uses someone expendable in that situ - but still requiring a pitching change. When what you really want is to keep the game and the momentum going you can roll smoothly through the next six outs.
i thought there would be more mention of Johnny Gomes standing at home plate watching his homerun from the other day. Mo Egger mentioned it on his blogpage. Can someone explain to me why it wasnt mentioned here just like Brandon Phillips? And you wonder why the best athletes are shying away from baseball and gravitating towards basketball and football. No "good old boys network" in the media and fans. Good luck RBI program...you are going to need it.
probably for the same reason it's not mentioned when ken griffey jr. did it or the other times phillips has done it -- because it went out. but would hate facts to get int he way of an argument.
my opinion, any Brewers hit one out today and the next guy gets plunked.
Johnny Gomes said last night that they shouldn't get mixed up in that stuff because they are busy winning. I think that attitude says it all.
Good old boys network? I agree, Jr always stood and watched his homeruns go out, no one every complained about that. They only complained when he didn't run out groundballs to first.
Bonds was another guy who just stood there and watched it go. He's not local, but for a while pretty much every at bat he had was covered by Sportcenter. No one ever criticized that.
Phillips got nailed because he potentially cost the team a win by watching when the ball didn't make it out. Then, after all the criticism and yelling turned around and watched the next one actually go out. It was almost an F you to everyone (including his manager) who called him out for it.
Race is a big issue still in this country, but the implication being made here is absurd.
Thanks for admitting a clear double standard but then again we are talking about the same people who tried to make an incident out of someone leaving Brandon Phillips glove in the clubhouse and what that might mean to club chemistry. Good old boy network is in full effect. Gotta love baseball aka The Nascar of ball sports and teaparty members. You must be so proud? I guess you also missed Drew Stubbs and Jay bruce doing the same "hot dogging"? Only in Cincinnati....good luck RBI program...you are going to need it.
Wow. Let's be clear hear. Hotdogging is a part of every sport and there is a clear rule to it: You better be hotdogging at the right time. I personally don't care for it, but you get away with it when the ball actually goes out / make the play / get the strikeout / etc.
Brandon didn't get away with it because it cost a run in a one -run game.
Gomes hit his homer out (way out). I also don't see any lack of energy in Gomes' play.
Give me brandon Phillips over the Johnny Gomes, Ryan Freels, tracey Jones and Adam Rosales's anyday of the week. Who in the hell are you trying to kid? I just thank God Brandon wasnt caught with multiple DUI's or multiple suspensions because he was hooked on crack,meth and herion. But then again, Brandon was never deemed the "natural" despite not smoking crack, doing meth and injecting herion which are "unnatural".
i'd take phillips over any of those players too, because he's a better player
I'm not clear on one thing, is Dusty Baker part of "the good old boy network"? He criticized Phillips, too.
Your out of your mind. Baseball is just as much a latin sport as it is a good ole boy(white) sport. Black americans(because thats what this is about right?) participate in basketball/football at a much higher rate proportionate to their population rate. In baseball its a bit lower.
This is simple. Baseball is a suburban sport. You need big parks, lots of personally purchased equipment to excel and someone to teach you the game(coaches, volunteers, parents). People coming from lower income or broken families no matter what the race would be less likely to play baseball.
Since sporting goods is my business I can see how the lines are drawn and how the different sports are marketed in different communities. Baseball doesn't have a shot with lower income black communities unless there are chances. Race is much less important in suburban communities because the infrastructure is there to support anyone who wants to play.
How silly is it that baseball isn't cool in segments of the black community. It's the best salary, you can earn right out of HS, the big league deals are guaranteed, you can play 20 years if you're good enough and you don't need to be the tallest, strongest or fastest to be great.
Wait a minute, didn't the Red's bring Joe Morgan on, just to help establish youth baseball for inner city and low income kids? Isn't this an outreach to the community? Doesn't sound like such a good ole boys club to me.
Trent, sadly it looks like your site is starting to gain enough popularity to have the kind of poster's that frequent Cincinnati.com, Fay's blog, and the local news comment sections. I guess good for you in one sense, but bad for the comment sections.
Agreed
Just c'mon over to the message board at RLD. Comments like that will be deleted if you cross the line...or even if you don't.